parking
anon posted on the 31/08/2014 12:29:20 PM
What can be done about the terrible parking in Dennistoun? I have just seen a fire engine having difficulty turning into the drives due to irresponsible people parking on the corners. This is potentially putting people's lives at risk.
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#1 - anon replied on the 31/08/2014 6:48:56 PM
We have an ongoing problem at the entrance to Whitehill court/place due to the same thing. People from whitehill street park both sides of our entrance driveway half on the pavements and half on the road. The entrance is on a curve as well which makes your view restricted as you drive in and only just allows one car at a time to get through.Goodness knows what will happen if a fire engine needs to get in. We have put signs up saying Private parking residents only but it just gets ignored.
#2 - Dennistonian replied on the 31/08/2014 10:29:13 PM
I live in Whitehill Court too and totally agree with Anon. Have thought of contacting the Council and asking them to put in double yellow lines. I have kids and my worry is emergency vehicles can't get through.
#3 - jimbo replied on the 1/09/2014 11:17:36 AM
don't worry fire services will break into car if they have to gain access illegal parkers will get no compensation serves them right.
#4 - Frank Plowright replied on the 1/09/2014 11:19:12 AM
For quite some while after the construction of Whitehill Court/place there was a problem about the Council not officially adopting the new roads that had been constructed. If this is still the case, they'd not consider themselves responsible for the roads.
#5 - The Mentalist replied on the 1/09/2014 11:19:58 AM
It just moves the problem on elsewhere. Better public transport provision with cleaner, less mobbed buses would be a start.
#6 - Grr replied on the 2/09/2014 10:07:48 AM
It's city park drivers that's the problem.
#7 - Malarki replied on the 7/09/2014 7:18:39 PM
Hope the Community Council are taking note of this thread and that the Fire Service report it too.
Glasgow Council also need to take some responsibility as not enforcing parking in the area or maintaining the road markings or signage - as well as worn painted yellow lines in places, have noticed quite a number of cars missing the stop lines at the Whitehill St/Finlay Drive junction as they have virtually disappeared and the no entry sign at the next junction down with Roslea Drive has been turned round so looks like the bottom section of Whitehill St is no entry, not the Hillfoot end of Roslea. Think this and the parking on the corners despite the double yellows contributed to the crash at the Whitehill/Roslea junction a couple of weeks ago.
On the City Parks drivers - irony is that the big advert up at City Parks says that there is office space available with parking. Where's the parking? Would that be in the surrounding streets, much of it on the pavements and corners? I wouldn't like to be a visually impaired person, someone with mobility problems or trying to negotiate the streets with a pushchair in the area. Yes agreed that need better public transport too but a bit of stick by enforcing responsible parking by the Council would help too ... although sometimes wonder if some of the cars are parked or just abandoned, given the distance between where they're left and the pavement.
#8 - Anon replied on the 9/09/2014 4:00:48 PM
Dennistoun - residents requested to the Factors to put signs up had signs put saying Private parking residents only in the hope that this would solve the problem, but unfortunately it didn't. I too would love to see double yellow lines on the entrance right up to the first speed bump. Will contact the Factors and see if they can help further, if not the Council might be the only option. Any time we have had the fire brigade here I notice they have put notices on these cars saying that they are obstructing the emergency services from gaining entry but again the owners of the cars just ignore this.
#9 - Frank Plowright replied on the 9/09/2014 6:42:15 PM
If the council still haven't officially adopted the roads, then they count as private roads. The owners, technically the people who own the properties (unless the land is separately registered) could erect key controlled barriers if they wanted. This system seems to work for the properties on Firpark St near the hospital. Having written that, I don't know how this system would work with regard to emergency vehicles.
#10 - anonymoose replied on the 9/09/2014 10:05:43 PM
Here's the basic situation:
Much of the carriageway and footway within the Dennistoun Village area is unadopted. Unadopted roads (including markings, signage and lighting) are not the responsibility of the council. The council doesn't adopt roads without a formal request. // It's probable that the likeliest way toward achieving the adoption of the roads which would be for the Dennistoun Village factors to pick the matter up and submit an adoption request. The factors aren't likely to do that without the widespread approval of the residents (to cover probable admin costs and provision of engineering drawings required for adoption, etc either provided in-house by the factor or by third-party professional services).
Even if all that is dealt with, consider the possibility that, to my understanding, the full length of Whitehill Court and Whitehill Place was never intended to be adopted - just the initial spur of Whitehill Place (not the full cul-de-sac and green space with parking etc). Consider also that parking within currently unadopted areas is owned by the owners of Dennistoun Village flats (and, although it isn't the case presently, it could be allocated on a private pass basis). Parking on an adopted road must be given up for public use (i.e. not allocated and free for all to use).
So the benefits of adoption to public road status (i.e. long-term maintenance by the council) will need to be weighed against the benefits of a private road (i.e. control over usage).
Further to this, even if all the stars align and a formal request for adoption is submitted to the council, the road will need to be inspected and passed as fit for purpose. There may well be issues that will need to be addressed (signage, lighting, markings, kerbs, etc) which will need to be fixed before the council is willing to approve the adoption. That would cost money. A road bond should be in place to cover it, though. // These are not insurmountable problems, but the issue requires a determined mind to cut through the confusion.
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